I just read that talk again; and I see nothing wrong with it. Because disciples can be wayward in their faith we should not celebrate Christmas because it causes too much pain in those who remain more faithful. . XD. Where everyone else is happy and interested in celebrating motherhood - those terrible males and those rancorous children in particular - they need to be denied for "me" and "what I want". Alece 100 it is a bit rich for you to interpret that your comment and that quote by Lewis mean the same thing. Last time I spoke on Mother's Day I was texting during my talk. I know I dont have any say on when the thread closes, but it would be interesting to hear feedback from how each persons respective wards handled MD, and how the people assigned to talk felt their messages were delivered and/or received. Thanks for thinking of me, my youngest bishop son! I agree with the chocolate, lack of talks, and the third hour refreshments! Nourishing their souls instead of feeding their bodies? Our ward always does flowers, right after Sacrament meeting, and this is a real problem for me because of my allergies. They seemed to love the tradition and I never received negative feedback. Evry cry of pity heeding, Seriously, it would be nice to have some idea. If they give out a plant that I can put in the ground, Ill be sad to miss that, though. Too often folks with food allergies, diabetes, and similar challenges are left feeling like second class saints in our food-laden church culture. Ere the sun goes down. Wow! Nothanks to my back problems got to fly non-stop from Atlanta to Seattle. ( Bonus: You get to visit Relief Society and YW! He discussed the tendency of many women to feel like failures and shared ways to overcome it. That wouldn't let her do such and suchall things in the end that weren't good for her daughter to do, one way of looking at it. The story of Martha and Mary each bringing important and valuable things, even though they were very different. They really did. I didnt enjoy Mothers Day during my years of infertility, but Ive been surprised that I enjoy it even less now that I have children. 22 . Most of us brought up to beleive that the man of the home was were it was at. I have no aversion to motherhood being spoken of in church. LDS Mother's Day Gift Ideas: Great Gifts for LDS Women Mother's Day Cupcake Flower Card Mother's Day Gift Ideas: 10 Ways to Show Your Love on Mother's Day Mother's Day Chapstick Idea Mother's Day Questionnaire & Gift Idea Mother's Day Gift Idea: Candy Necklaces Mother's Day Treat Tags Mother's Day gift idea: Candy Flower Bouquets Categories Christmas is not a universal holiday and thus we should not celebrate one day a year, We focus on Christ every day and every Sunday so there is no need to celebrate on Christmas. from Pres. Just wondering. Why..thank you! Father's Day Talk in Sacrament Meeting June 21, 2009 - Blogger 41 Fear not, little children, for you are mine, and I have overcome the world, and you are of them that my Father hath given me; 42 And none of them that my Father hath given me shall be lost.. Any suggestions as to what you would truly and realistically appreciate being presented? Alece, Weve gathered this collection to help you study, write talks, and share powerful LDS quotes about mothers. I choose to stay away for most MDs and all FD. Some were difficult for metotell without choking up. I did live in one ward where the mothers always got plants but the fathers always got cookies. I went to Sac. What a nice gift for a Mom..hey, you guys have a great time!! 1) Peanut butter sandwiches served with a smile tastes much better than the fanciest meal served with a side of stress. With that in mind, there are great ideas in this discussion thread of ways to do exactly that. I know my own mother dislikes being called a good mother because she feels so awful about how she raised us from her perspective. The first speaker was my favorite. I loved it! There are diabetic men, arent there? . Next, it is always very specific so as to not offend anyone. And he completely meant it too. What to Expect at Latter-day Saint Church Services On Mothers Day. Just pass out the chocolates and let all the women go to a park where buckets of KFC, potato salad and slaw are in abundance and/or veggie pizza and cheesecake. I am confident that a poll ofactive Mormons would show that Mothers Day sacrament meeting is, hands down, the one meeting of the year most fraught with difficulty for the people who attend. *As I type this, I know for a fact that someone out there is going to respond that their ward gives men plants for Fathers Day every year. I wonder if this phenomenon is uniquely Mormon. It isn't uncommon for LDS women to be dealing with some combination of the following factors: a difficult marriage, no marriage, no children, difficult children, health problems, loss of faith. I think mixing it up, at least every other year, from Mother I Love You, is nice as a mom. The best Mothers Day talk Ive ever heard was an illustration of this principle. Well we could have it like the Sacrament Meetings for Father's Day and have it be your usual every Sunday meeting and not even talk about women or mothers. If it is unique to us, I wonder why we have a corner on the Mothers Day anxiety market. Book of Mormon Scriptures on Mothers. We can all sound harsh at times, but this seems to be a community of sorts and following through on the different dicussions helps put context to opinions expressed. What would happen, if, at the start of sacrament meeting on Mothers Day, the bishop announced that there would be two separate meetings. She told us that as a girl, she would sit in her room crying, with big welts on the back of her hands, but now that she was grown up, she understood why her mother did it, and she was grateful, by golly. Mother's Day is a special time to say thanks to the women in your life. Modal title . Intent matters, and I dont believe the idealism we are fed is meant to hurt, but rather to uplift. Gospel Q&A: I Feel Guilty That I Cant Fast Because of Medical Reasons. Mother's Day Last year I used the last verse of "Teach Me to Walk in the Light" and the song "Teacher/Mother Do You Love Me" for the Mother's Day Primary songs in sacrament meeting. As the son of a mother who was destroyed every Mothers Day, and seeing many similar experiences here, I plan to stick to the Christ-centric meeting next year. We got a response from172 females and 51 males. Or better yet, teach their classes and let them attend RS for a day? Mrs. Gui, All the little Guis and their little Guis, the violin, photography, Prokofiev, Mahler, Terry Pratchett, Patrick OBrian, Umberto Eco, sci-fi and fantasy, Brigham Young, playing Bluegrass with real Kentuckians. Then they would close by saying that it was the most wonderful blessing imaginable. That bishop that moved his ward away from elaborate gifting was doing the right thing. Mothers Day Sacrament Meeting: Impossible to Win It is Mother's Day and yet the day is supposed to about everything about women EXCEPT being a mother. I love this. Find another way to show appreciation to Mothers! It appears that this phenomenon is growing and becoming even more common everywhere in the US church. Even though Mothers Day is now a reasonably happy day for me personally, I still find that my mind is focused on how other women in my ward might be experiencing it. A BIGTHANK YOU to Heather Mecham for compiling all the results from this survey. Probably low on the most desired list, but very creative and I will always remember that with a smile. We changed the lines to "Mother Do You Love Me". Nothing, wakes people up in sacrament meeting like talking about chimpanzees dismembering each other. "We express our love to those in this congregation and our prayers for the victims and their families. Most detested thing, 3rd hour chatting and eating. I must speak the loving word, Have a young child, a teenager, husband and elderly father take you through the different phases of motherhood in their own point of view. 18 Powerful LDS Scriptures on Mothers | Read Them All Here Since my mom has unacknowledged mental health issues, this is my oldest sister and a lady in L.A. who I still keep in contact with. A friend once proposed a thought experiment. Does this mean that finally..a talk could be about our Heavenly Mothers? Although I like the idea of them as well! The men work. Well at least I know what not to talk about. Steve P, Sisters would come up to me and express that MD was hard for them also for various reasonsone was abused by her mother while another friend had lost a mother she loved as a teenager so cried all day long. Thats why youve been my cyber-crush for years. I find women in general to be compassionate and sensitive to other people and a joy to be around. LDS Hymn Arrangements. More importantly, what impact does this conscious attempt to devalue motherhood within our community have on the future of the family? They may have services on Holy Mother Mary but then again, she left her son behind in Jerusalem and didnt even notice she had forgotten him for quite some time before going back to look for him so not sure about her mothering skills ;)). Sabbath Day Scriptures Scripture References Doctrine and Covenants 59:9-12 Scripture Study Resources Topical Guide, "Assembly for Worship" Oh yes, Ive read the scriptures to be like Him, to be perfect. I don't think it bodes well. Just after she became a beehive, her mother had an affair. Below, youll find an excerpt from each talk and a link to the full text. He also shares ways a mother can become the first line of defense against the wiles of the world., RELATED: 30 Inspiring LDS Quotes About Mothers & Motherhood. Gospel Q&A: How Can I Find and Foster Celestial Love? Yesterday I enjoyed another Mother's Day sacrament meeting, typical with its children's songs, a talk from a young man about how wonderful mothers are, a talk from a sister about how wonderful women are, and a tearful talk from a brother about all the incredible mothers in his life. This talk teaches us how rearing up children in righteousness can help keep them safe in an increasingly wicked world and how what happens in the home can benefit communities and nations. I havent had a bad Mothers Day since I divorced my ex and the day stopped being about making my kids miserable so that he could appear to be a good husband. Usually chocolate, a plant or flower. Use Mothers Day as an example of how a saint can use a tradition of men as an acceptable way to express Gods love and promulgate the Gospel. Support Epic Family Fun! JUST kidding. Ere the sun goes down, My own dear mother, long since gone to her reward, summed up the essence of the perfect Mothers Day talk quite nicely. So for over a decade, Ive loved Mothers Day, just because I know it wont end with all of us crying. Finally, Elder Holland offers his thanks to mothers around the world. Others must be killed or theyll live forever, injuring regular folk. Ann (#76), Im sorry to hear about your mothers passing. How about honoring our mothers by not just focusing on what they do or have done for us (guilt trip for those that feel they never do enough) but focus on ways the members can help their mothers throughout each stage of their life. #109 Rayloved the roller coaster quote on motherhood. This is a tradition of man, and sometimes it is just a bad idea. Not a perfect example but I was striving for some other options besides stripling warriors moms. I Know I would like Mothers Day more if they changed the official hymn of the day from Love at Home to this one (to be sung from the perspective of the mother): 1. I think this is one of the most confusing topics for men in the church. http://mormonartist.net/2012/02/day-three-jeanna-stay/. My best friend (unmarried, childless at 51) has been asked to speak. How about we don't celebrate either at church, but celebrate it in our homes with our mothers and fathers? Mother's Day: My talk by Kaimi Wenger May 5, 2009 23 Comments It's hard to strike the right balance, between affirming Moms who really need to be told that they made a good decision; and letting others (especially women) know that they're okay, too. Why can't we let women celebrate it how they want at home and focus on Christ at church? We do need to have some kind of an ideal, even if we may not measure up to it occasionally, or even ever! Especially since whoever asked him to speak didnt learn their lesson and he said the exact same talk a year later. Can they not celebrate their own mothers? I think this can be especially true for women who feel theyre just holding on. The sacrament provides an opportunity for Church members to ponder and remember with gratitude the life, ministry, and Atonement of the Son of God. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. Should we have days for every type of individual? Its hard to please everyone. This has been a big concern for me, as there are many women in the ward who are very sensitive to the Perfect Mother talks, and I didnt want to heap on to their burdens. Mothers Day for me is when my children and Grandchildren call me. They cannot eat it, and in fact just having the stuff around is a serious temptation to do so. The water is a reminder that the Savior shed His blood in intense spiritual suffering and anguish, beginning in the Garden of Gethsemane and concluding on the cross. An ideal is fine to have in your own life, but imo it is dangerous to attempt to have one for a worldwide religious organization. Although Mothers Day is not fraught for me the way it is for so many, I will be watching with interest next Sunday to see which way our meeitng falls. In the spirit of the quib in #21 we should just cancel these commercial holidays. The reminder was given to visit those sisters unable to attend on Mother's Day. This has been a great reminder to be sensitive to all in the congregation with the Holy Ghost as a guide. I dont recall what the men are given on Fathers Day, but at one time in my ward they gave them nice ball point pens. Thats the last thing a mother needs, responsibility for yet another living thing. The Mother's Day Talk PSA - By Common Consent, a Mormon Blog By They want to give a message of comfort and support to other parents who are navigating the difficult conflicts that can arise in families around this issue. But her mother held a yardstick, and if her daughter played the wrong key, her mother smacked her across the back ofher hands, thus providing sufficient negative reinforcement to motivate her to do it right the next time through. Just as he was getting into how pornography helped him through the divorce, the bishop stepped up and escorted him from the podium. and read for the dayLOL, isnt that a nice dream?? To find a ward near you, try the Meetinghouse Locator, which will also provide sacrament meeting times, driving directions, and contact information. I would love tohear from you. Pertaining to gifts: #53 Im against handing out plants on Mothers Day. I do think it is easy to understand my point and I appreciate it when others understand my position. The Spirits constant companionship is one of the greatest gifts of mortality. Sacrament meeting is for honoring and remembering the Savior, its not Fathers Day or Mothers Day, its the Saviors Day! Do other Christian women struggle with church-going on this day? Why does the church HAVE to be a part of it? How could I forget? The good talks that I have heard tend toaddressthe details ofan individual womans life, in all its messiness and particularity. There are sins that need confessing; My Mother will one day reach the godstage with my Father and will have there own planet. Theres got to be a way to show a little appreciation and recognize their importance and significance without it being guilt-inducing. This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you (Luke 22:1920). In this case it will likely be mothers, and the Primary kids will sing, too. That being said, my ward will be nice and quiet next Sunday, one of the joys of the YSA wards. Personally, I go to church to learn about Jesus and Christ like attributes. I guess plants are pretty and mothers are pretty. The Puritans werent big on celebrations, so they dropped it when they colonized Massachussetts. I also have plenty of friends who are single sisters and they mourn growing older and menopause because they wont be able to have the children they want to hold and love. I spoke about her one year. This year in our ward we are having a missionary farewell for Mothers Daynot the old kind where the new missionary and all his/her family speak, but the new kind where the new missionary will be given a topic. Its a complete set-up for failure. Thanks for the reminder. That we be a great subject for Mother's Day. I have had a lot of thoughts about Father's Day because my father passed away on May 23 about a month ago. We were utterly gobsmacked. Please know that it is worth it then, now, and forever.. Think about your message and how it will sound to the entire spectrum of your sisters in the ward. I dont envy you people who have been called togive talksnext week. But I realize others prefer plants. I issue a challenge to top this worst Mothers Day sacrament meeting talk. My son Dan was married June 13 about a week ago. Because school is out in June, Fathers get the bum end of the deal when it comes to recognition. Because I know the real story so it is distracting from the fake one that they are giving. Id also like a break from a poem in the EFMormons which says that no painting, no book, no song penned by a mother could be as great as a worSocrates by their children in the future, so spending your time raising the next generation is the greatest thing you can do. I was initially surprised he went that way, but I have to say although Ive occasionally heard people say they wish something were did, I heard many complaints every previous year that something was done about what that something was. Diabetic others, for example. I remember my dad saying it was one of the most powerful and real talks hed ever heard in a Mormon church meeting. My wife spoke on Mothers Day (which I originally thought was a bad choice, because she herself appears to the outside world to be the perfect mother) about her own mother and some of the simple things her mother had done for her that made a big difference in her life and how grateful she was. Nourishing both body and souls.Just my humble opinion. I dont go to be honored or get a gift. People seemed to feel good about it but Mark is right about it being a fraught day. Beautiful. This talk by Sheri Dew focuses on how motherhood is for all women, regardless if they have children or not. http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2008/04/daughters-of-god?lang=eng, Ray (#58) Steve Ps post is evidence that a talk from 2007 which has been essentially corrected is still being recycled today. The primaries (100 of them? The Damage of Mormon Mother's Day Myths - Zelophehad's Daughters It was so honest and hopeful all at once. In the same way, when we make a dramatic production of Mothers Day, I fear that we are sometimestrying to compensate for the way we devalue the real and important work they do on the other 364 days of the year. Just plant a tree and name it after our mothers! He chose to base his talk on To The Mothers In Zion, and used it to essentially chastise and condemn working women, and it sent half the ward fuming into the bishops office. Its impossible to please everyone. The third tells of a mother who helped her daughter with a disability at a temple dedication. Then she spoke with conviction about the grace of Godthe grace that helped her forgive herself for the serious problems she caused her children that could have been prevented if shed prepared herself, and the grace that helped her achieve later in life the spiritual depth she had lacked when her children were young. Cannot load blog information at this time. Its never the men. Is it callender time, number of posts, how irritated the host is with the comments! Available Now: 2023 Temple Calendar. I wonder if a member of our bishopric reads this blog? Just to be clear - I meant 'written/given' by women (aka musical number "O My Father" written by Eliza R Snow, conf talk by Reeve/Oscarson/Okazaki). Why in the church is there such a strong, almost secular aversion to motherhood? It was both simple and profound. Flowers were also given to anyone who wanted to wear one in honour of their mothers. Tell the moms that you'll be playing a game with the kids on Mother's Day and that .
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